Sunday, April 12, 2009

I Am a Myth


As I reviewed Hofstadter last week, I enjoyed rereading another of his Platonic dialogues, "A Courteous Crossing of Words," this one between SL #641--a believer in the ideas of I Am a Strange Loop--and SL #642--a doubter of the ideas of I Am a Strange Loop:

SL #641: Earlier, I described your "I" as a self-reinforcing structure and a self-reinforcing story, but now I'll risk annoying you by calling it a self-reinforcing myth [emphasis is Hofstadter's].
SL #642: A myth?! I'm certainly not a myth, and I'm here to tell you so. (291)

SL #641 then explains itself this way:

The "I" -- yours, mine, everyone's -- is a tremendously effective illusion, and falling for it has fantastic survival value. Our "I"'s are self-reinforcing illusions that are an inevitable by-product of strange loops, which are themselves an inevitable by-product of symbol-possessing brains that guide bodies through the dangerous straits and treacherous waters of life. (291)

Such dramatic language would seem to invite literary support, but first we find support from another take on the physics of thought -- Zen Physics:

We are the products of our life stories. [...] So, inevitably, a lot of what we remember is not what actually happened--whatever this may mean--but rather a kind of myth or confabulation that helps us sustain the impression that we know what is going on. [...] We maintain a sense of continuity and so provide a basis for our feeling of personal identity at the cost of never knowing what is true. We are as much a myth as the stories we tell ourselves. (Darling, 1996, 35-36)

Darling goes on to assert that "[t]he brain, in effect, appears to have a resident storyteller that works ceaselessly to link everything that comes to its attention into a single coherent narrative" (87).

A single coherent narrative. A myth. A monomyth. That's what Joyce called it in Finnegans Wake, and it would become the basis of Joseph Campbell's concept of the hero's journey:

The standard path of the mythological adventure of the hero is a magnification of the formula represented in the rites of passage: separation--initiation--return: which might be named the nuclear unit of the monomyth. (Campbell, 1949, 30)

Separation--initiation--return. We do it over and over; furthermore, we remember each iteration and use it to inform the next iteration of the set of strange loops we call life. And the lifestory that we construct becomes a myth with a single protagonist: I.

So what is myth?

For Marshall McLuhan, myth "is the mode of simultaneous awareness of a complex group of causes and effects" (McLuhan, 1962, 266). This "complex group of causes and effects" is simply another way to express strange loops of separation--initiation--return; therefore, McLuhan's definition of myth would certainly support both Darling and Hofstadter. But James P. Carse gives us, perhaps, the most concrete definition of myth:

Myths [...] are not stories that have meanings, but stories that give meanings" (Carse, 1986).

Without myth, life would have no meaning. That is why I am a myth.


9 comments:

  1. Resident storyteller...Wow! In my second Expository Writing class with Linda D., I wrote a paper on a short story by Joy Hargrove called: (no quotation marks here) To Anna Mae Piqtou Aquash, so that the stories may live on & so may we...or something like that. I will look it up. I thought it was on my jump drive. In the Native American Tradition, storytellers are revered.
    When reading SL#641 & 642, I found myself standing beside 641. (My filing cabinet comes to mind) We would, like any other animal, by nature encode and store survival tactics. I believe that each of us individually have our stories, and that each and every one of them are different, because of all the influences that make us Who We Are. And then there are those that enhance, exagerate, distort, embellish and downright lie about their stories, to the point at times when they believe them themselves. (My ex comes to mind) Is that sad? A survival tactic? Criteria in the DSM-IV TR for a disorder? ;) We have all witnessed this at one time in our lives anyway, either inside, or outside, or both. "We are as much a myth as the stories we tell ourselves." That speaks volumes. As did "Zen Physics. It also brought to mind selective memory. Are we all capable of this? In my experience, I believe so. And so back to the storytellers, life would have no meaning without them. I would have no meaning without my stories.

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  2. I'm thinking that your environment, physical/mental/psychological, etc.) could have some collective stories, but with the jillion different influences on Who We Are, 'I' wonder how many stories are there and how do they differ? (Eye-witnesses flash thru my mind) I believe that what we experience with our senses being illusion makes sense. Our individual realities depend on our thoughts...our POV. How we decide to translate incoming info may not be the way the next person would translate it. So, perhaps what actually did happen to one person did not happen to the other, even though they were both in the same place. Thus, the same event can have multiple meanings to different people. "Myths are not stories that have meaning, but stories that give meanings." MEANING is huge in determining what catches our attention, and we find valuable enough to hang onto. I remember from "Science Fiction and the Supernatural", It's the question that drives us; however answers may not exist.

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  3. Do myths create an inner connectivity between all people collectively?

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  4. In the Native American tradition, we are ALL relation...including the moon and the sun, the trees (the standing people) and the creatures, (winged ones and 4 leggeds.) Mother Earth, Grandmother Moon, etc. Even the rocks (The Desiderada comes to mind) Many Elders still to this day refer to it ALL as "all our relation".

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  5. (This includes the ones who have gone before us)
    I lost my 19 yr. old daughter nearly 7 years ago. On January 26, I lost my 50 yr. old step-son, and March 18th my mother passed over. I can't wrap my mind around any of them being 'dead' & gone. Man cannot create nor can he destroy 'energy'.

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  6. I don't know, llee, whether myths create an inner connectivity between all people or whether, being inherently connected, myths simply make those connections clear.

    What is undeniable, however, is that creation myths around the globe are strikingly similar, as was noted by Joseph Campbell in THE HERO WITH A THOUSAND FACES:

    "The cosmogonic cycle is presented with astonishing consistency in the sacred writings of all the continents[.]" (Campbell, 1949, 39).

    Personally, I believe the connectivity was already there, and myths universally bring it to light. I'm interested in hearing how Native American traditions explain the relationships between the people, the standing people, the winged ones, four leggeds, and the sun and the moon.

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  7. I tend to agree dj that this connectivity is innate. Seems like I remember something in "The Power of Myth" relating to these similarities.
    In my searchings, I too have noticed so many similarities in beliefs in general. Like the Nordic myth of Oden; who hung from a wind tossed 'tree' for nights 9, forsaken by God & forsaken himself to himself...and believe there is an inferrence to or rather a similarity to Jesus there...wood...cross. Forsaken. "Father, why have you forsaken me?" (Jesus)
    The Native American Tradition is an oral one. And, unfortunately, there still remains a lack of trust of the wasicu (white man). So it is not common for Natives to share their spirituality & beliefs with just anyone.

    Let me tell you a story:
    Boby Lee passed away on the 4th of July. Towards the end of August of 2002, the same year, my sister-in-law and I attended a wacipi (powwow) just south of Columbus, OH. We just happened to hear about it. Before the rodeo started, I went to the announcer, and donated to next years pow wow in Boby's name. We talked, he wrote, and then I walked over and sat with my sis in law and an Female Elder. It was a Lakota pow wow! I was familiar!
    The pow wow started, and the host drum drummed and played a song for Boby. The Elder beside me looked up to the sky (it's rude to point), and my eyes followed hers. There above the pow wow was an adult hawk teaching a youth to fly. The Elder merely looked me in the eyes, and shook her head 'yes'. I had lived amongst the Santee Sioux for about 4 years, but I knew none of these people on that day. A traditional dancer (a very happy man, his dancing made me smile...which I wasn't doing much of at the time) and tribal chairman, BOB LEE...(things that make ya go hmmmm...) walked up to me, and stopped in front of me. He took my hands. He made the same gesture with his head and eyes, and I looked up again, and then looked at him. He said, "She is here."

    Hawk is a medicine animal, & to the best of my knowledge, the medicine of Hawk is 'Messenger'. From what I have gathered, there is something that medicine animals have to teach us.
    I watch much pbs, and every little thing on this planet is connected...all depending on each other for survival. The trees are alive, and we both depend on each other. We use them up. Sad. Anyway, the 4 leggeds would be, well obviously, the 4 legged creaters, and winged ones those that fly...there is a reverence for the creatures of the Earth in the Native tradition, from what little was shared with me. I share that emotion. The way I understand it is that we are all related, as we are from 'Mother' Earth. 'Grandmother' Moon...wisdom, all respected.
    (The commercial with the old Native man on his horse on top of a hill with a tear running down his cheek comes to mind.)
    I have a book called: "Earth Medicine" by Jamie Sams. This book is writen by the 28 day cycle of women, the moon phases...not by our calendar. So the sky...the moon was a calendar, a watch, a compass.

    I'd love to take an astronomy class! I know so very little, and find it so easy to get lost there. I can find the dippers, and the north star, and Casiopia (sp?), and the goose and eagle sometimes. I also used to get, yearly, a book called "Planetary Guide". I think I will start doing that yearly again. I'm happy in the sky.

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  8. Under 'Let me tell you a story...I didn't mean rodeo, I meant pow wow. Proof read llee! :)

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  9. Again referring to 'Let me tell you a story', what are the chances of happening across a Lakota pow wow in Ohio? More things that make ya go hmmm...
    :)

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